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which members are real and which are the fakes, but those are just our opinions, we make no money from this service. We are just a CARRIER for the information, a FORUM through which this communication can occur without oppression. CM is not involved in any crime whatsoever. It is not illegal to operate a forum and allow discussion.

Craigslist.com has people posting about prostitution, drug hookups, and other obvious crime, yet people don't call craigslist a "hookers and blow one stop shop" or a crime empire. It is recognized as a CARRIER which is not responsible for the content of posts therein. This is the state of Carders Market.

The spirited defense completely ignored the detailed crime tutorials and review system on Carders Market, not to mention the secret impetus for the site: to give Max a place to sell stolen data.

Knowing his California hosting wouldn't satisfy the underground, Max resumed his search for an arrangement overseas. The next month, he hacked himself a new server, this time in a country as far from U.S. influence as any on the Net—a nation unlikely to respond to complaints from Dave Thomas or even the American government.

"Carders Market is now hosted in IRAN," he announced on August 11. "Registration is reopened."